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Posted: Feb/27/2008 at 7:53pm |
The first part of the board meetings are reserved for the public to voice personal concerns as they relate to the village of Alexandria Bay. Sometimes this part of the meeting can be very brief and boring or it can go on for 30 minutes or more and be heated and exciting [meeting on 2/12/09]. I am hoping this will be the place to share what you have heard during this part of the meeting, or offer clarification. Or just lurk and catch a glimpse of what went on at the most current meeting. Todays Current Public Concern could easily become a hot topic for debate in this Forum or a cause for you to actually go to a Board Meeting and maybe voice your own Concern or just go to a board meeting and stare at the trustees and the mayor to let them know you might care about what goes on in our Village 
I will try to attend the Village board meetings, at least the Public Concerns segment and post here what went on at that particular meeting. More to come in 2 weeks............
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Posted: Feb/27/2008 at 8:04pm |
Tonight 2/27/08 was kind of a quiet night compared to the last meeting[wow]. Dave Johnson from Jreck Subs brought up the villages open container law. He asked if there was still a law against open containers, the board said yes there was [this isnt just open cans or bottles of beer either] Dave was concerned that violations of open containers was not good for families. The board stated that they can give up to 2 hours amnesty to this law to for example the Chamber of Commerce ie. the Block dance.
There was a brief dialogue about the second block dance and some statement was made that maybe the second one would go against the safety first issue.
Anyone else from tonights meeting want to share what they heard or clarify what I thought I heard? Lets Roll......
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Posted: Feb/27/2008 at 9:10pm |
Thanks for the briefing, pguston.
There's always someone chipping away at the block dances. I don't know why. There at night, when the kids should be home. They're safe, trouble free and everyone has a good time.
I have been at EVERY ONE for the last eight years, from start to finish, and have not seen one incident or problem.
Last year, they had one on Market Street, by the Chamber Office,with a good band, and no one went. I have pictures to prove it. Me, the sound mixer, and the band. That's was it.
There is a faction that wants to have them at the pavilion, but no one goes to them.
They belong on James Street, between Church and Market. No traffic hassles, easy to block off and well attended. Average age of attendees: probably 40. Riots-none.
Oh, and BRING BACK RAY JOHN!!!
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Posted: Feb/27/2008 at 9:17pm |
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Someone else at the meeting made the observation that people were moving freely around downtown with open containers after the Polar Bear dip.............
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Posted: Feb/27/2008 at 9:25pm |
I keep reviewing my notes that I took at the meeting, but I didn't want to take the time to put it all into one post..... I just wanted to get the meat of the public concerns into the forum to get the topic rolling........If your wondering what the safety first issue is...... I believe it is this... no event will be sponsored unless it is deemed to be a safe event for all to attend, that is why there might be some hesitation about having the second block dance. It might spread the public safety resources [police and ambulance] to thin.......... again if there are any insights and clarifications regarding this or anything else in this topic please make them known.....
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Posted: Feb/27/2008 at 9:37pm |
Trustee Burtch made this comment........... [before he was trustee] He was working the village park and pavillion during last years motorcycle rally and he was approached by some of the vendors that had displays in the parking lot and in the pavillion, if they could drink a few beers while sitting at there booths. Mr Burtch contacted someone, either the Chief or a board member to see if permission was possible. Evidentally permission was given. Mr Burtch said that after they had packed up there vending and left the pavillion, he could not believe what immaculate shape the bikers had left the place in....... almost as if nobody had been there. He also made the comment that the bikers had more respect for our park than some of the local teens....
Dave Johnson agreed and said that the bikers brought in real money for our community and all the local businesses.......
I wonder what the board thinks of the Blues on the Bay and the beer venues there.
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Posted: Feb/27/2008 at 9:57pm |
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Prior to the meeting [so it is not a matter of public record] as people were getting settled in. There was an informal discussion [without any board members present] about buisnesses that have sandwich board signs on the walkways. According to the discussion, sandwich board signs are not allowed and some said that they can be a hazard to pedestrians.......[could be the next public concern]........... also overhead signs were mentioned as not being allowed, unless grandfathered. Again this was just idle chatter while we all waited for the official meeting to begin.
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Posted: Feb/28/2008 at 4:39pm |
I currently have a large stake in a business that is located downtown. The block dances bring alot of activity into the Bay, not to mention business!!! I remember going to these as a kid with my parents, it would be a shame to eliminate any of them. The only block dances that seem to do well are the ones down by the main dock (when they block off the street by downtown live) and the one between market and church. Anything that helps bring people into the Bay to enjoy our town and support our businesses. I agree bring back Ray John!!!
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Posted: Feb/28/2008 at 6:59pm |
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If we stop block dances and stop overhead signs, and stop this and stop that, what will become of Alexandria Bay? What will come of democracy?!
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Posted: Feb/28/2008 at 7:23pm |
Originally posted by RGD-Truesdell
If we stop block dances and stop overhead signs, and stop this and stop that, what will become of Alexandria Bay? What will come of democracy?! |
Please keep in mind that the brief discussion regarding overhead signs and sandwich boards was not part of the Public concerns portion of the village board meeting. It was a conversation prior to the board meeting amongst citizens, just a little grumbling if you will.
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Posted: Feb/28/2008 at 8:01pm |
As an outside observer, I am of the opinion that this issue relates closely to the discussion regardingsuch issues as triming the A Bay Police Force. ( Chief etc. ) If A Bay truely wants to become a tourist environment akin to a "New Orleans" then this will come at a cost. (Enforcement , Investment, proper tax base allocation , planning ) The village , ( its merchants and citizens ) , the town, and ultimatley the state must work together to achieve an acceptable balance. Why is it that there are so many business' in A Bay and surrounding areas with " For Sale" or "Auction" signs on them ? I feel it is because a " formula" for success has not yet been discovered. If you are on the sidelines GET IN THE GAME !
In the end , I would implore those involved to not focus on whether a sandwich board or a person walking down the street with a beer will signal a village spinning into dispair. Address the real issues , and get A Bay to realize it's full potential It's long over due !
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Posted: Mar/06/2008 at 4:31pm |
JUST A REMINDER TO EVERYONE
THE NEXT VILLAGE BOARD MEETING
WILL BE ON
 TUESDAY MARCH 11 2008 @5:30 PM
VILLAGE OFFICES COMMUNITY ROOM
WALTON STREET
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Posted: Mar/11/2008 at 7:14pm |
Officer Pierce is now the Officer in Charge and will take care of the day to day business of the Police Dept.
There will be one officer per shift and no overlapping shifts
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Posted: Mar/11/2008 at 9:28pm |
A request for permission from the Board for Pirate Days events was requested by BJ Mosher. Mayor Robb asked about the block dances. Everything is supposed to go as it has in previous years. Any deviations must be submitted to the Board for approval. It was further discussed that there would be only one block dance per friday of Pirate Days.
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Posted: Mar/11/2008 at 9:36pm |
There was some concern about village merchants displaying merchandise for sale outside of their buildings during special events. Merchants according to code are not allowed to set up tables, bins, or tents to display there merchandise unless they have requested permission from the village board. There was further discussion about a visible permit to show that the merchant had recieved permission from the board to display and sell for a particular event. It appears that permits will not be issued for the summer season but only per event. Other stipulations may be pending the board decision.
Clarifications from forum members at the board meeting are always welcome!
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Posted: Mar/11/2008 at 9:42pm |
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Another issue was the industrial dumpster on Church St. Complaints were that it is in the way of snow removal and a potential hazard to drivers and pedestrians. The question of a permit for the dumpster was raised. Roger Jobson said that there was a permit issued for this dumpster by the NYSDOT. He further stated that he thought the dumpster would be there another 2 weeks or so.
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Posted: Mar/11/2008 at 10:04pm |
Other than the old business and new business.........
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Posted: Mar/11/2008 at 11:49pm |
The Dumpster (s) in the road(s).
The one on Walton St has blinking lights on both ends. They don't even blink and it's snow covered. Hazardous, because I think the speed limit is 30mph there. Hit that one at 30, even with airbags, you're breakin' your legs.
The one on Church St, obstructs the stop sign and has been there for quite a while. T-bone a car coming around the corner and see the "state permit" disappear and the village holds the bag.
Why can't the contractors put the debris in their trucks and take it to the dumpster at their businesses?
Another thing that chaps my hide....Someone downtown got a NO ALL NIGHT PARKING SUMMONS for parking on the street overnight. But the two dumpsters take up approximately 6 parking spaces and they get no tickets and are there all winter.
How about it, Jane Brutal, does the contractor have a permit for the Church St dumpster? I'm calling NYSDOT tomorrow............
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Posted: Mar/12/2008 at 7:45am |
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I should have audio from the meeting. Hopefully I will have time to put it up soon. It takes a lot of time/work because it is recorded with the camcorder and you have to seperate the audio from the video.. etc etc etc This time around there is also over an hour of audio.. For future meetings I should have a better process as I ordered a voice recorder unit last thursday..
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Posted: Mar/12/2008 at 11:19am |
the audio is now up on the homepage
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